Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205

03/25/2021 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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03:31:59 PM Start
03:37:11 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
03:53:10 PM SB102
04:37:41 PM SB2
05:14:03 PM SB28
05:23:56 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Governor Appointees
-- Public Testimony --
*+ SB 102 AMEND COMPACT FOR A BALANCED BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ SB 2 PEACE OFFICERS: DE-ESCALATION, MISCONDUCT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ SB 3 POLICE OFFICERS: ORAL WARNING/DE-ESCALATE TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ SB 28 EST. APRIL 24 ALASKA CONSTITUTION DAY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
         SB 2-PEACE OFFICERS: DE-ESCALATION, MISCONDUCT                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:37:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  SHOWER announced  the consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.  2                                                              
"An  Act  relating  to  reporting  acts  of  misconduct  by  peace                                                              
officers;  relating to  de- escalation  procedures  used by  peace                                                              
officers;  relating to  peace officer  certificates; and  relating                                                              
to the Alaska Police Standards Council."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He listed the  individuals who were available to  answer questions                                                              
and provide invited testimony.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:38:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  ELVI  GRAY JACKSON,  Alaska  State  Legislature,  Juneau,                                                              
Alaska,  sponsor   of  SB  2,  read  the   following  introductory                                                              
statement  for  SB  27  into  the  record:  [Original  punctuation                                                              
provided.]                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     First, I  would like to  thank the hard-working  men and                                                                   
     women peace  officers and office  staff who  provide the                                                                   
     services that  protect lives  and welfare of  the people                                                                   
     within  Alaska's communities.   Thank  you all for  your                                                                   
     service.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The recent  casualties surrounding  civilians has  drawn                                                                   
     even  greater attention  to issues  around policing  and                                                                   
     police  to community  relationships.  This moment  seems                                                                   
     to  have created  real momentum  to address  one of  the                                                                   
     longest standing injustices in society.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     During  last  summer and  into  the  Fall, my  office  -                                                                   
     along  with Senator  Begich's office  - worked  together                                                                   
     to develop a  series of bills. These bills  were drafted                                                                   
     by Legislative  Legal as a bill packet that  our offices                                                                   
     refer  to as  TPIP- Turning  Pain into  Progress.   TPIP                                                                   
     was  crafted after the  national 8  Can't Wait  campaign                                                                   
     which  is   eight  specific  policies  that   have  been                                                                   
     proven,  with  data, to  reduce  police violence  by  as                                                                   
     much as 72  percent, when implemented. I  recognize that                                                                   
     the  national campaign  can't and  shouldn't be  applied                                                                   
     to a  place as  unique as Alaska.  Therefore, I  spent a                                                                   
     great deal of  time talking to stakeholders  and gaining                                                                   
     input  throughout the  process of  drafting these  bills                                                                   
     to  ensure  that  the  proposal  would  be  fitting  for                                                                   
     Alaska. I am  pleased to say that I have  engaged public                                                                   
     safety   agencies  to  include   the  Anchorage   Police                                                                   
     Department,  Anchorage  Police   Employees  Association,                                                                   
     Public  Safety Employees Association,  and the  National                                                                   
     Organization   of  Black   Law  Enforcement   Executives                                                                   
     during the  process. Because  of my proactive  approach,                                                                   
     I   am   confident   in   moving    forward   with   the                                                                   
     implementation  of  public  safety policy  changes  that                                                                   
     will benefit  both the  citizens of  Alaska and our  law                                                                   
     enforcement officers.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:40:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON read the following sponsor statement for SB
27 into the record: [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The vast  majority of law  enforcement officers  in this                                                                   
     country  perform  their  difficult   duties  daily  with                                                                   
     respect  to their  communities  and  in compliance  with                                                                   
     the law. There  are, after all, incidents  in which this                                                                   
     is not  the case. Police  misconduct can include,  among                                                                   
     other  things,  excessive force,  failure  to  intervene                                                                   
     when  an  officer  sees another  officer  not  following                                                                   
     protocol or practicing safety measures.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     These  above  issues  portray the  need  for  additional                                                                   
     training  specifically  for police  officers,  probation                                                                   
     officers,   parole  officers,   municipal   correctional                                                                   
     officers, or correctional officers.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     SB2 seeks  to mandate training around  de-escalation and                                                                   
     the  duty  to intervene  as  an  officer.  Additionally,                                                                   
     this   bill  would   set  new   parameters  around   de-                                                                   
     certification, denial and revocation of certificates.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:41:14 PM                                                                                                                    
KEITH BAUGUESS, Staff, Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson, Alaska State                                                                  
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, paraphrased the following sectional                                                                
analysis for SB 2: [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1.  This  section   amends  AS  18.65.220,  the                                                                 
     statute  regarding  the  powers  of  the  Alaska  Police                                                                   
     Standards Council  by adding a new subsection.  It would                                                                   
     adopt  regulations   that  require  a   police  officer,                                                                   
     probation    officer,    parole    officer,    municipal                                                                   
     correctional  officer, or  correctional  officer to  de-                                                                   
     escalate  an  encounter with  a  person who  resists  or                                                                   
     responds  aggressively to officer  contact or arrest  by                                                                   
     using  nondeadly  or  less  lethal  means  before  using                                                                   
     deadly force,  if de-escalation  is safe to  attempt. It                                                                   
     would  also require  such officers  listed to  intervene                                                                   
     when  the  officer  knows, or  reasonably  should  know,                                                                   
     that   another  officer   is  engaged   in  an  act   of                                                                   
     misconduct,   unless   the  officer   cannot   intervene                                                                   
     safely. That  officer also  is to immediately  report to                                                                   
     a  supervisor  the incident  involving  another  officer                                                                   
     engaged in an act of misconduct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2.  This  section amends  AS  18.65.240(a)  the                                                                 
     statute  regarding   Alaska  Police  Standards   Council                                                                   
     Standards,  setting  forth  that  a person  may  not  be                                                                   
     appointed   as   a   police   officer,   except   on   a                                                                   
     probationary   basis,  based   on  completing   training                                                                   
     regarding  domestic violence,  and  sexual assault,  and                                                                   
     having  the qualifications  established for  employment.                                                                   
     The  Council shall  prescribe  the means  of  presenting                                                                   
     evidence of fulfillment of these requirements.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3. This  section amends AS 18.65.240(c)  to deny                                                                 
     or revoke the  certificate of a police officer  who does                                                                   
     not meet the  standards or who fails to  comply with the                                                                   
     regulations  adopted  under AS  18.65.220(b)(1)-(3),  or                                                                   
     who has  been the subject  of a substantiated  report of                                                                   
     an  incident involving  misconduct  filed in  accordance                                                                   
     with AS 18.65.220(b)(3).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:43:05 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section  4. This  section  amends AS  18.65.242(b),  the                                                                 
     statute     regarding    standards     for     municipal                                                                   
     correctional, probation,  and parole officers,  to set a                                                                   
     [training]  requirement  for  certification.  Conforming                                                                   
     language is reflected in section 2 of this bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5.  This  section   amends  AS  18.65.245,  the                                                                 
     statute   pertaining   to   denial  or   revocation   of                                                                   
     certificate  of  municipal  correctional,  correctional,                                                                   
     probation,  or parole officer  with conforming  language                                                                   
     that reflects section 3 of this bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  6. This  section  amends AS  18.65.280(b),  the                                                                 
     statute  regarding   Alaska  Police  Standards   Council                                                                   
       exceptions to set requirements for police training                                                                       
     programs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  7. This  section  amends AS  18.65.670(c),  the                                                                 
     statute   regarding   village  public   safety   officer                                                                   
     program.   Specifically,   it   sets   requirement   for                                                                   
     training   subjects   with  conforming   language   that                                                                   
     reflects section 6.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:44:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SHOWER expressed  support for including improvements  to the                                                              
VPSO program  in the bill.  He said he  was interested  in hearing                                                              
what officers  think about the bill.  He asked if the  members had                                                              
questions for Robert Griffiths or Colonel Barlow.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOLLAND asked  for a  short  statement from  each of  the                                                              
individuals on their perspective of the bill.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:47:20 PM                                                                                                                    
ROBERT  GRIFFITHS,  Executive Director,  Alaska  Police  Standards                                                              
Council, Juneau,  Alaska, stated  that SB 2  reflects many  of the                                                              
concerns  about performance  and training  standards for  officers                                                              
in  the  state  that  APSC  is  addressing  in  a  new  regulatory                                                              
package. The council  is ready to embrace this type  of change and                                                              
has no major concerns with the bill.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHOWER  asked Colonel  Barlow  to  comment on  the  balance                                                              
between  giving police  officers leeway  and not  putting them  in                                                              
harm's way unnecessarily  and "throwing the book"  at officers who                                                              
do not follow the rules.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:50:25 PM                                                                                                                    
COLONEL   BRYAN   BARLOW,   Director,   Alaska   State   Troopers,                                                              
Department  of  Public  Safety (DPS),  Anchorage,  Alaska,  stated                                                              
that the department  provides public safety training  for troopers                                                              
and  police officers  at the  academy in  Sitka that  incorporates                                                              
the mindset  of de-escalation and  intervening when  excessive use                                                              
of  force  is   observed.  Blocks  of  training   are  devoted  to                                                              
professional     police    communication,    critical     incident                                                              
intervention, and  multiple scenario-based training  exercises. In                                                              
the  latter, the  role players  are  evaluated and  rated in  each                                                              
scenario,  all  of  which have  a  de-escalation  or  intervention                                                              
component.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL BARLOW  explained that after  troopers complete  more than                                                              
1,000 hours  of training  at the public  safety academy,  they are                                                              
involved in  a months-long field  training and evaluation  program                                                              
where a  training officer  evaluates de-escalation techniques  and                                                              
use  of  force.  Following  that training,  the  recruits  are  on                                                              
probationary status.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL  BARLOW  said  the  department   takes  de-escalation  and                                                              
professionalism  in  service  and communication  with  the  public                                                              
very  seriously. Officers  are expected  to hold  themselves to  a                                                              
high  standard and  policies  require  troopers to  intervene  and                                                              
report if excessive use of force is observed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHOWER  asked  if  he  had  any  specific  comments  on  or                                                              
concerns with the bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL BARLOW  replied the department  has no big issues  with SB
2 at this time.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:54:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COSTELLO  advised  that Senator Kawasaki  was online,  but                                                              
his  audio  was  not  working.   He  sent  a  message  asking  how                                                              
frequently officers  take refresher training on  de-escalation and                                                              
specifically  when   an  academy  graduate  takes   the  refresher                                                              
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRIFFTHS answered  that current  regulations  do not  require                                                              
annual  or  biannual recertification  in  de-escalation  training.                                                              
Each  individual department  addresses that  topic currently,  but                                                              
next  week APSC  will  consider a  package  of regulation  change.                                                              
These include  mandatory  refresher training  for all officers  in                                                              
the state every  year to maintain certification  in de-escalation,                                                              
constitutional rights and other topics.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHOWER noted  that Senator  Kawasaki showed  on the  board,                                                              
but his audio was muted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:57:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SHOWER opened public testimony on SB 2.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:57:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MIKE  COONS, representing  self,  Palmer, Alaska,  stated that  he                                                              
strongly opposes  SB 2 in  addition to  SB 1, SB  4, SB 7,  and SB
46. He  maintained that  these bills are  what Black  Lives Matter                                                              
is  trying to  do, which  is to  create  a new  socialist-approved                                                              
police force. The bill is more harassment of law enforcement.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:59:40 PM                                                                                                                    
KATIE  BOTZ, representing  self,  Juneau,  Alaska, stated  support                                                              
for SB  2. She  cited a case  last August  where a police  officer                                                              
escalated a  domestic dispute.  She said  she was concerned  about                                                              
the level  of training the officer  went through. She  offered her                                                              
belief  that  there should  be  stricter  rules and  policies,  so                                                              
officers do not  misjudge and mistreat people on  scene. She asked                                                              
the  committee to  strengthen the  bill and  hold police  officers                                                              
accountable.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:02:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CELEST  HODGE-GROWDEN, President  and  CEO,  Alaska Black  Caucus,                                                              
Anchorage,  Alaska, said the  Alaska Black  Caucus is  a nonprofit                                                              
organization  that champions  the  lives of  Black  people in  the                                                              
areas of  health, economics,  education,  and justice. She  stated                                                              
strong support for  both SB 2 and SB 3 and urged  the committee to                                                              
support  de-escalation bills.  She  said policing  practices  must                                                              
build community  trust and foster collaboration to  protect public                                                              
safety  and all  citizens.  This legislation  is  a positive  step                                                              
toward  bridging   the  gap  between   law  enforcement   and  all                                                              
citizens, including Black and indigenous people of color.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:03:31 PM                                                                                                                    
LILIANE  ULUKIVAOLA, representing  self,  Anchorage, Alaska,  said                                                              
she  supports SB  2 because  law enforcement  needs more  training                                                              
and to  be held  accountable for  their actions.  She recounted  a                                                              
situation  where  law  enforcement  was called  to  de-escalate  a                                                              
situation with a  suicidal person, but the officers  ridiculed the                                                              
individual.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:05:10 PM                                                                                                                    
KAREN MALCOLM-SMITH,  David Dylan  Foundation, Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                              
stated  strong support  for SB  2.  She related  a personal  story                                                              
where officers  acted with  no compassion  when she was  suicidal.                                                              
She declined  a trip to the hospital  and the officers  put her in                                                              
handcuffs and  used what she believes  was excessive force  to put                                                              
her in  the back  of the  squad car.  She said  the officers  were                                                              
young and appeared to be untrained.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:07:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MAXINE  DOOGAN,   Community  United  for  Safety   and  Protection                                                              
(CUSP),  Fairbanks,  Alaska,  stated  that  CUSO is  an  ally  for                                                              
current  and former  sex workers  and is urging  the committee  to                                                              
support both  SB 2 and SB  3. These bills codify  important public                                                              
safety  measures  so there  is  no arbitrary  enforcement  between                                                              
jurisdictions,   and  the   public   will  be   clear  about   the                                                              
expectations.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:08:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL PATTERSON,  Party for  Socialism and Liberation  Anchorage                                                              
(PSL), Anchorage,  Alaska, stated that PSL held  demonstrations in                                                              
Anchorage  last summer  and had  conversations  with thousands  of                                                              
Alaskans  about their personal  interactions  with the police.  It                                                              
was  disheartening  to  hear  many   people  describe  how  police                                                              
treated  them  with   violence  and  aggression   when  they  were                                                              
experiencing   a  mental   health  crisis.   This  escalated   the                                                              
situation. Thus,  PSL Anchorage supports  SB 2 and SB 3  to codify                                                              
standards for police officers.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. PATERSON  related a personal  encounter with  Anchorage Police                                                              
Department (APD)  officers when he  was age 15. He  described this                                                              
and other interactions  with law enforcement in  Alaska as "pretty                                                              
bad"  and said  SB  2 is  a  modest and  necessary  first step  to                                                              
modernize Alaska's public safety laws.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:10:19 PM                                                                                                                    
JULIE SMYTH,  representing self,  Fairbanks, Alaska,  advised that                                                              
she  is an  Inupiaq from  Fairbanks  who entered  the foster  care                                                              
system  because  of  police  brutality  against  her  dad.  Family                                                              
members and  others have  also talked about  how the  police treat                                                              
her people and  the differences in treatment between  a female and                                                              
a  male.  She  said  she has  called  the  Alaska  State  Troopers                                                              
several  times asking  for  help as  recommended  by the  Interior                                                              
Alaska  Center for  Nonviolent  Living and  the  troopers did  not                                                              
follow through.  She said  it is  almost taboo  for people  in her                                                              
community to  call police because  there is so much  mistrust. She                                                              
urged the committee  to do the research  to see how bills  like SB
2 and  SB 3 have  helped communities.  She suggested  the language                                                              
in  SB 2 could  be  even stronger  and require  officers to  prove                                                              
that  their life  was  in danger  when they  opted  to use  deadly                                                              
force.  She pointed  out that  per  capita, Alaska  is the  second                                                              
worst  state in  the nation  for police  brutality against  Alaska                                                              
Natives and Blacks. SB 2 is a step in the right direction.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:13:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SHOWER  closed public  testimony on SB  2 and held  the bill                                                              
in committee.                                                                                                                   

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 102 Version A.PDF SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Sponsor Statement Version A.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Sponsor Statement Version A.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Sectional Analysis Version A.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Written Testimony Chip DeMoss CFA.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Written Testimony Lt. Governor Mead Treadwell.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Written Testimony Sven Larson economist CFA.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Version A.PDF SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 3 ABC SB3 Letter of Support.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 3 CUSP SB3 Letter of Support.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 3 Nancy Pease Letter of Support.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 3 PSL Letter of Support.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 3 Sponsor Statement ver B 1.25.2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 3 ver B Hearing Request 3.15.2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 3 ver B Presentation 1.19.21.pptx SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 3 ver B Sectional Analysis 1.22.2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 3 ver B Supporting Document Do Police Officers Have a Legal Obligation 1.25.2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 3 ver B Supporting Document More police de-escalation training 1.25.2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 3 ver B Supporting Document Police De-Escalation 1.22.2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 3 ver B.PDF SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 3
SB 2 Fiscal Note 519.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 2
SB 2 Letters of Testimony DTD 3-15-2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 2
SB 2 Sectional Analysis Version B DTD 3-15-2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 2
SB 2 Sponsor Statement Version B DTD 3-15-2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 2
SB 2 Supporting Document (2) Supporting Document DTD 3-15-2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 2
SB 2 Supporting Documents (1) DTD 3-15-2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 2
SB 2 Version B.PDF SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 2
SB 28 Fiscal Note 3134.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Fiscal Note.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 v. B Legislation.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 v. B Sectional Analysis 1.26.2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 v. B Sponsor Statement 1.26.2021.pdf SSTA 3/25/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 28